@arzachel That's old hat.Luc Montagnier already said this 4 years ago.
@Kuenga there has to be some way to get through to some of them. And I suppose it starts with helping them save face somehow. Which, I fully realize, none of us are especially in the mood to do. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't try to talk anyone down anymore, I try to stay mentally healthy myself.