Wilbur Whately

TODAY THEY WERE FORCED TO ADMIT THAT ‘COVID-19’ DOES NOT EXIST prepareforchange.net/2021/01/0

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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@mar77i @arzachel this is total BS
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Wilbur Whately

@jeffcliff @mar77i I believe they released something on us, but it’s definitively not what they’re saying it is. And they’re lying if they tell you they’ve isolated the virus.

Need links?

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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@arzachel @mar77i No they aren't. The virus is isolated anew every day. You are not following the actual trail of research on covid that is ongoing, if you are not aware of this.
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Wilbur Whately

@jeffcliff @mar77i thought on this, for starters?: hive.blog/worldnews/@francesle

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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@arzachel @mar77i Sorry, no. Wuhan strains are not the only ones being sequenced - every day they are isolated and sequenced all over the world.
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@jeffcliff @arzachel You're making me very curious now. Where do you have that from, and can we corroborate this somehow?
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Wilbur Whately

@mar77i @jeffcliff gemmaodoherty.com/defending-ou

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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@arzachel @mar77i Some nobody saying 'there's no proof of X' does not overturn proof of X.
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@arzachel @mar77i ie you don't get rid of evidence just because you don't want to believe it exists
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Sexy Moon
@jeffcliff @arzachel @mar77i I didn't read the link, but I've repeatedly run into people that think that the PCR test for the virus is the only method of detecting the virus we have, and so it must have never been isolated. But there are several scientific papers about the virus having been isolated.
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Wilbur Whately

@Moon @mar77i @jeffcliff lots of jiggery-pokery with redefining “isolation”: drug-dissolution-testing.com/b

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Sexy Moon
@arzachel @mar77i @jeffcliff this guy is handwaving, first he says you can't isolate then says that dna evidence must be fake because you can't isolate. we have its entire dna sequenced and studied for over a year now so he's just wrong.
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Wilbur Whately
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@Moon @mar77i @jeffcliff No, he’s saying that— just like with “pandemic” & “herd immunity”— the definition of “isolated” has been quietly altered. Anyway, take it up with him here: linkedin.com/posts/saeed-qures

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Sexy Moon
@arzachel @mar77i @jeffcliff he is arguing that we can't have isolated the coronavirus because we've never isolated the reference coronavirus that they're being compared to. He is going beyond saying we haven't isolated COVID-19 and is saying we've never isolated any coronaviruses. He's apparently arguing that all virology is a hoax and not just COVID-19.
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@Moon @arzachel @jeffcliff @mar77i koch's postulates still unproven to this day though
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Sexy Moon
@hakui @arzachel @jeffcliff @mar77i I didn't think it ever applied to viruses but I can't speak further than that on the topic.
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@hakui @Moon @arzachel @mar77i koch's postulates didn't exist in a universe with HeLa
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@hakui @arzachel @mar77i ie Koch, if he still existed, would be fine with our use of HeLa for the equivalent purposes
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@jeffcliff @arzachel @mar77i cancer cells don't behave the same way as normal cells in an individual
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@hakui @arzachel @mar77i not exactly but they do when it comes to an ACE2 grabbing @covid19
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@jeffcliff @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i how do you know that's what happens in normal cells
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@hakui @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i that's what other kinds of observation studies are for

But *at the very least* we know that all human bodies contain tumours and tumours are suceptible.
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@jeffcliff @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i we also know that human bodies have an immune system that takes care of pathogens, which a bunch of cancer cells in a petri dish doesn't have
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@hakui @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i ie HeLa *is* human. If @covid19 *just* infected cancerous cells that would be one thing (and a damn miracle). It doesn't.
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@jeffcliff @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i normal humans aren't just clumps of tumors though
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@hakui @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i that's like saying "all humans aren't lungs so therefor if something infects the lungs we shouldn't believe it's an infectious pathogen because we can't know what happens when it passes past the lungs"
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@jeffcliff @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i back during the spanish flu they made a bunch of healthy people breathe in the exhaled air from patients. nobody caught anything
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@hakui @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i [[citation needed]]
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@jeffcliff @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i MJ Rosenau, "Experiments to Determine Mode of Spread of Influenza", Journal of the American Medical Association 73, no. 5: 311-313
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@hakui @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i ugh 30$ for a 100 year old pdf. scihub to the rescue
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我是中文房

@jeffcliff @hakui @arzachel @covid19 Exactly. Could we discuss the fact that this still, after all, might be little more than maybe not quite, but largely still seems like a common cold?

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@mar77i @jeffcliff @arzachel @covid19 which might be due to a weakened immune system from stress, diet, or other factors
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@hakui @mar77i @arzachel @covid19 That is not what koch's postulates are about. They are purely about proving infectiousness. Which HeLa cells do.
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@hakui @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i Now it's fair to say that there's more than Koch needed to comfirm what it actually does in the presence of a healthy immune system - that's what observation studies are for. Studies that have been done, and replicated all over
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@jeffcliff @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i infecting cancer cells by injecting stuff into them doesn't mean the same stuff would infect a person in real life
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@hakui @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i They are human cells. If they exhibit ACE2 receptors, and the virus gets into all cells (human and non) by ACE2 and it gets into those cells by ACE2 then yeah, they would

@covid19 infects everything from whales to cats. If it infects HeLa (who *is* part of a living human being) it infects the rest of us.
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@jeffcliff @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i and if tests were to be believed, it also infects papaya https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/tanzania-testing-kits-report-goat-papaya-covid-19-postive-presidential-probe-ordered/ar-BB13Aplf
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@hakui @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i positive PCR test doesn't mean infected. I mean infected.
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@hakui @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i ie a cell hijackekd to produce more viral cells
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@jeffcliff @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i prove that cats and whales were infected
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@hakui @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i though this is weaker than a koch equivalent of them it is based on the affinity of their ACE2 receptors which is just as good

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.045302v1.full.pdf
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@jeffcliff @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i >predicted
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@hakui @arzachel @covid19 @mar77i also in real life we have plenty of cancer cells, so yeah if they are they entry point *it makes us suceptible*
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@mar77i @arzachel @covid19 @hakui it should, given it's also a coronavirus.
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@mar77i @arzachel @covid19 @hakui ie it's a branch of the cold family that can also cause nerve damage/kill you in non trivial %s
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